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Re: Nürburgring, Black-Falcon Battle Royale (Porn inside)
« Reply #20 on: 18-Sep-2008, 12:06:12 »
^^ they probabaly crashed it on the hot lap

they shoud've lapped a LP640 too  :mad:

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« Reply #21 on: 18-Sep-2008, 12:06:38 »
Hope to see cars like this on the Ring this weekend (saterday afternoon and sunday), more TAU people there?

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« Reply #22 on: 18-Sep-2008, 12:42:55 »
^ is there any special event? Darkel, Ondra and MIHALS are attending the F Days soon..... not sure if we're talking about the same day :blush:

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« Reply #23 on: 18-Sep-2008, 12:51:00 »
Just Touristenfahrten Dani, I'll be meeting some friends there. The F-days are somewhere in October.

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« Reply #24 on: 18-Sep-2008, 14:57:35 »
interesting!! what is the reason for that? Is it a very bad handling car??
Really surprised to see it so "slow" compared to the others...

The CCX was wrecked on a section that had contrasting cambers and it had just rained, the car spun and hit the guard rail twice.

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Mind you, Basseng is doubtful that any of the other cars would have reacted the same way on those awkward cambers. 'You are always fighting with the Koenigsegg. It often feels like it's working against you', he explains. 'For sure it has monster power and it's the quickest down the straight, but that power only arrives between 7000 and 8000rpm. There's very little low-down torque, so you're always waiting, waiting, waiting, and the gear ratios don't match this track either - second is too short and third too long.
'The balance is OK, but there's a lot of roll and pitch. It feels heavy, which is odd as it's as light as the Ferrari, and the brakes go long after a lap. As a driver you don't get a good feeling with it. It's an amazing car on the road, but it's not close to the others on the Nordschleife. In testing we did a '31 and I believe a sub 7:30 would be possible, but never 7:24'
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« Reply #25 on: 18-Sep-2008, 15:16:23 »
The CCX was wrecked on a section that had contrasting cambers and it had just rained, the car spun and hit the guard rail twice.


Thanks for the post. Could you post a summary of what the driver thinks of each car?

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« Reply #26 on: 18-Sep-2008, 15:42:52 »
Ferrari Enzo :
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"It's like a race car. The gearshift is fantastic and it allows me to left-foot brake, which is an advantage, and power, throttle response and the brakes are fantastic"
(guess he liked that adjective :mrgreen:)

Also, being a Ferrari, it suffered from electronic damper failure and the pilot had to complete the lap with just springs and aerodynamic pressure. It looks like this happened at least twice, they ran a check at the local Ferrari dealership but it reported no fault.
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"For sure the car was unstable and difficult at high speed, particularly at Tiergarten (taken at 180mph) but it was OK, I was able to complete the run."

Pagani Zonda F :
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It's clear that the Zonda is his favorite, though. He can't help grinning when he talks about the way the chassis extracts the best from the tyres and gives great feedback from the helm, but he's almost laughing when we get to the subject of the V12 AMG motor. 'It's perfect', he says. 'The power and torque are incredible. Pagani has done a fantastic job with this car. It's sensational that they have been able to produce something like this when they don't have any race experience.' Can he criticise anything ? 'Only the pedals, which look cool but can be tricky to use and could be a little more direct. Otherwise it's exceptional.'

They say the Zonda had broken an alloy cross-bar supporting the rear subframe.

No feedback from the pilot about the Carrera GT and MC12 however.

I'd gladly scan the complete article but my scanner died a few weeks ago  :bad:
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« Reply #27 on: 18-Sep-2008, 15:50:16 »
Ferrari Enzo :  (guess he liked that adjective :mrgreen:)

Also, being a Ferrari, it suffered from electronic damper failure and the pilot had to complete the lap with just springs and aerodynamic pressure. It looks like this happened at least twice, they ran a check at the local Ferrari dealership but it reported no fault.
Pagani Zonda F :
They say the Zonda had broken an alloy cross-bar supporting the rear subframe.

No feedback from the pilot about the Carrera GT and MC12 however.

I'd gladly scan the complete article but my scanner died a few weeks ago  :bad:


Don't wory, thanks for all the info you are posting. I wonder how many "record" laps could this hypercars stand without selfdestroying.  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #28 on: 24-Sep-2008, 00:48:52 »


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« Reply #29 on: 24-Sep-2008, 20:09:36 »
What a sound!  :good: Crazy!  :D

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« Reply #30 on: 24-Sep-2008, 22:25:17 »
Get Aston N24 (or whatever it is) and see if that can keep up.

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« Reply #31 on: 25-Sep-2008, 00:00:13 »
Thanks for the updates on this. I didn't think the Enzo would be so close to the top cars and lap better than the CGT!

Which number and month is the EVO?

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« Reply #32 on: 25-Sep-2008, 01:25:18 »
Which number and month is the EVO?

The latest issue.
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« Reply #34 on: 07-Nov-2008, 09:22:08 »
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« Reply #35 on: 07-Nov-2008, 12:50:27 »
Most of those cars are within a couple of seconds of each other... Thats really only equal to say a couple of mistakes on an entire lap of the ring..
I think it shows how close these cars are in reality, considering how different they all are.. I must say i missed the Veyron and LP640 as well...

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« Reply #36 on: 07-Nov-2008, 20:01:29 »
Most of those cars are within a couple of seconds of each other... Thats really only equal to say a couple of mistakes on an entire lap of the ring..
I think it shows how close these cars are in reality, considering how different they all are.. I must say i missed the Veyron and LP640 as well...

Very true, the differences are really small. I've read multiple times that a Veyron can't do a lap at full throttle on the Nordschleife before going into "limp-home" mode. The brakes aren't up to it. Don't forget that when you buy one you have to sign papers that you fully understand that the car isn't capable of doing any serious track action...

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« Reply #37 on: 08-Nov-2008, 03:56:44 »
Very true, the differences are really small. I've read multiple times that a Veyron can't do a lap at full throttle on the Nordschleife before going into "limp-home" mode. The brakes aren't up to it. Don't forget that when you buy one you have to sign papers that you fully understand that the car isn't capable of doing any serious track action...


I hope you are kidding, otherwise that is seriously sad...  :no:

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« Reply #38 on: 08-Nov-2008, 10:02:04 »
Maybe they should do a slightly more track spec version of the veyron... just say with some stupidly huge ceramic brakes with like 10 calipers on front and back or something.

That said i would have thought a Veyron should be able to do one lap of the ring, even if its design wasnt for a track car... They didnt skimp on the engineering so why the brakes then?

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« Reply #39 on: 08-Nov-2008, 21:26:08 »
I'm pretty sure the Veyron is capable of setting a proper laptime at the Ring. Afterall, most of the development of the car was carried there :wink:

The more I heard about the owner have to sign something the more I think it's an hoax :no: