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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #60 on: 10-Mar-2009, 17:52:43 »
the aston is still the best looking for me. although im sure ill come to love that audi when i see it flying out in front.

i like the fact that its different. it seems that all LMP's these days have that 'nosecone' style like the 908 so this is sort of refreshing. the front looks like wings or something.

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #61 on: 10-Mar-2009, 21:55:01 »
Exactly, that's why I like this car so much, finally a car without the F1-esque nose cone... this reminds me somewhat of a streetcar, with a grille and a hood above it, instead of an F1 car with wheel covers... Some1 compared the car to a Manta Ray, I think it's a good comparison :)
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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #62 on: 13-Mar-2009, 23:00:09 »
Some pretty cool news. Matech (an American company) will launch a new GT1 car (based on the new, 2010 GT1 regulations that haven't been released to the public yet), based on the Ford GT! :D I'm very curious to see what it'll look like, the Ford GT has already won last year's European GT3 championship :good:
The car will be launched on April 6th, hopefully the new GT1 and GT2 regulations will also be revealed then...

And here's 1 more pic of the audi R15

really agressive aero going on there!

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #63 on: 17-Mar-2009, 19:30:51 »
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In preparation for Saturday’s 12 hour race, featuring 58-year-old Hans-Joachim Stuck in the GT2 class in a Porsche, Audi has put their new cars on the track, decimating the opposing Peugeots.

The #2 Audi R15 of Allan McNish, Tom Kristensen and Dindo Capello lapped the 3.7-mile track in 1:43.596, half a second quicker than their teammates Marco Werner, Lucas Luhr and Mike Rockenfeller in the #1 car, and a full 1.4 seconds clear of the Frenchies in their Peugeot 908’s.

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #64 on: 19-Mar-2009, 21:58:38 »
:no:


Have no fear, Acura is here! They secured pole position for the Sebring 12 hours :D :good:



http://www.planetlemans.com/2009/03/19/sebring-12-hours-qualifying-report/

And some other news: Panoz is considering a return to the LMP1 class :snap: their front-engined prototype cars were brilliant!
They're thinking of using the Corvette V8 as an engine, possibly in front again :snap: I absolutely adore their earlier cars so for me it's great news!

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090319/ALMS/903199991

(here's the Panoz LMP1 as it raced in 2002)

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #65 on: 20-Mar-2009, 01:58:07 »
Have no fear, Acura is here! They secured pole position for the Sebring 12 hours :D :good:

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http://www.planetlemans.com/2009/03/19/sebring-12-hours-qualifying-report/

And some other news: Panoz is considering a return to the LMP1 class :snap: their front-engined prototype cars were brilliant!
They're thinking of using the Corvette V8 as an engine, possibly in front again :snap: I absolutely adore their earlier cars so for me it's great news!

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20090319/ALMS/903199991

(here's the Panoz LMP1 as it raced in 2002)
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good news indeed, I just don't like the fact that Adrian Fernandez is running on an older chassis :(

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #66 on: 20-Mar-2009, 13:37:40 »
Have no fear, Acura is here! They secured pole position for the Sebring 12 hours :D :good:


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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #67 on: 20-Mar-2009, 15:59:07 »
good news indeed, I just don't like the fact that Adrian Fernandez is running on an older chassis :(
What do you mean? They're using the brand new Acura LMP1 chassis...

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #68 on: 20-Mar-2009, 18:45:11 »
What do you mean? They're using the brand new Acura LMP1 chassis...

#15 Lowe’s Fernandez Racing - Acura ARX-01b

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #69 on: 20-Mar-2009, 20:14:23 »
http://www.americanlemans.com/index_news.php?n=12579

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With much of the attention on the factory diesel powers, the reigning IndyCar and Indianapolis 500 champion turned a fast lap 1:45.278 (126.522 mph) in de Ferran Motorsports’ new Acura ARX-02a.


The Lowe's Fernandez arx-01b does have pole as well, but in LMP2 ;)

[edit] my bad it's only now that I realize that u weren't talking about the LMP1 pole, or about the de Ferran car at all :lol: indeed Fernandez is still using the LMP2 car, they weren't chosen for the LMP1 car because their performance in the 2008 season wasn't what Acura/Honda expected

[edit2] Peugeot will be in endurance racing for a few more years it seems :D from 2011 on (when the new LMP1 rules are implemented), they'll be racing a completely new car, with hybrid technology :good: more news to come soon.
http://www.planetlemans.com/2009/03/20/peugeot-confirm-hybrid-programme-for-2011/

(update) Development on the current 908 has already stopped so they can focus their energy on the 2011 car(Peugeot 909)... that means it'll be really hard for the 908 to win Le Mans this year, let alone in 2010...
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news/people/313568/peugeot-confirms-2011-lmp1-programme-with-all-new-hybrid.html

[edit 3] for those of you who are interested, here's a vid of Simon Pagenaud, a driver for De Ferran racing, talking about his new car.

He's explaining some of the special tricks they've put on it (most notably, put wider rear tyres on the front to increase the contact patch, which does require some special aero, power steering and more as well). He also talks about the cockpit; theyve got a really cool system with 2 seperate traction controls, one for going into the corners and one for accelerating out of the corner :good:

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #70 on: 03-Apr-2009, 13:23:36 »
Audi signs ex-Porsche RS Spyder official drivers, Timo Bernhard and Romain Dumas, to replace Frank Biela and Emmanuelle Pirro:

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/02/combining-forzas-audi-ports-over-porsche-lmp2-drivers-for-le-ma/



These are the guys that beat the R10s at Sebring last year... with an inferior car :wink:

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #71 on: 03-Apr-2009, 21:46:21 »
too bad we wont be seeing the 909 earlier than 2011. i fear that the 908's will get blown out at Le Mans which could make for a boring race...

here are some nice shots of the cars competing in LMS.

gotta love that aston LMP

http://speedhunters.com/archive/2009/04/03/preview-gt-gt-2009-le-mans-series.aspx

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #72 on: 03-Apr-2009, 23:47:23 »
This afternoon I've been at the Barcelona track... and tomorrow I'm coming back... oh, and on sunday too. So expect a shitload of photos of the Le Mans Series from your catalonian friend :whistle: The Lola-Aston Martins look fantastic in the metal!!

And the classics too! BMW M1 Procar, Porsche 935 Moby Dick, Porsche 935 K, Porsche 908, Lola T70, Chevron B6, Chevy Corvette C3, De Tomaso Mangusta... hell, it was far more interesting than modern cars!! :lol:

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #73 on: 03-Apr-2009, 23:51:30 »
wow awesome :good: can't wait for the race, and the pics!

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #74 on: 08-Apr-2009, 00:20:15 »
So... GT1 rules and championship announced...

Stephane Ratel, organiser of the FIA GT championship and the European GT3 championship, has announced the outlines of his plans for a FIA GT1 World Championship...

Some basics:
-Cars based on the GT2 regulations, but engine can be chosen from any car in a manufacturer's range (which is what Nissan have done with the GTR)
-Cars will be performance balanced ahead of the season (like current GT3)
-A FIA GT1 World Championship with 12 races on 5 continents, each race consists of 2 races of 1 hour (how is this endurance??)
-for the next few years, max 6 manufacturers(!!!) x 4 cars in the GT1 WC (to keep FIA-provided transportation cheap). 2 of those manufacturers are already chosen: Nissan(GT-R) and Ford (GT)
-FIA GT1 cars should be able to race at Le Mans (i'm not convinced that they will though)
-GT2 will have a European Championship without GT1

Here are the Nissan GT-R and the Ford GT, both in GT1 spec:


As for my opinion... First of all, the cars will be interesting, although for purity's sake I'd much, much prefer them to have their own engine, instead of for instance an M6-engined BMW M3 or a Nissan with an engine based on a 4x4 V8 (like the GT-R's engine!!)
Also, with max 6 manufacturers, and 2 already chosen, you need porsche and ferrari for credibility and stability, which will leave very little room for others, think Aston, Lambo, Corvette, BMW...

But my main problem is, the manufacturers don't want it! They're all happy with the current GT2 class, they lobbied for GT2 to be the only GT class and it's turning out to be awesome, with Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, Corvette, Aston Martin, BMW, Panoz, Ford, Spyker and possibly Jaguar... WHY, WHY would you want to split that up, just when the word AWESOME is about to get a new definition???

Also, performance balancing in proper racing cars? No thanks... :whip: Really I hope this plan will end up in a dumpster and GT2 will become the only, badass, GT class in town...

[edit] and here's some more info and pics of the Nissan GT-R:
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/235018/nissan_gtr_gt1.html


These are my sources, google-translated to english from french:
outline of the plans:
http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=en&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww.endurance-info.com%2fversion2%2factualite-endurance-774.html

interview with Stephane Ratel
http://translate.google.com/translate?sourceid=navclient&hl=en&u=http%3a%2f%2fwww.endurance-info.com%2fversion2%2factualite-endurance-793.html
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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #75 on: 08-Apr-2009, 09:02:32 »
As for my opinion... First of all, the cars will be interesting, although for purity's sake I'd much, much prefer them to have their own engine, instead of for instance an M6-engined BMW M3 or a Nissan with an engine based on a 4x4 V8 (like the GT-R's engine!!)
Also, with max 6 manufacturers, and 2 already chosen, you need porsche and ferrari for credibility and stability, which will leave very little room for others, think Aston, Lambo, Corvette, BMW...

But my main problem is, the manufacturers don't want it! They're all happy with the current GT2 class, they lobbied for GT2 to be the only GT class and it's turning out to be awesome, with Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, Corvette, Aston Martin, BMW, Panoz, Ford, Spyker and possibly Jaguar... WHY, WHY would you want to split that up, just when the word AWESOME is about to get a new definition???

Also, performance balancing in proper racing cars? No thanks... :whip: Really I hope this plan will end up in a dumpster and GT2 will become the only, badass, GT class in town...


Completely agree in all your points. Limiting the field to only 6 manufacturers is stupid and can have a boomerang effect in the long run. I have the feeling that all these changes have been made to favour the Nissan GT-R. Obviously is won't be as quick as F430 GT2 or the 997 RSR (with soooo much more racing background and feedback from all the teams running their cars)... so they kind of changed the rules to allow them to participate and neutralize the difference with the other cars... 'cause levelling the performance is the dumbest idea ever. Ok... in GT3 it has some sense since most of the teams are relatively amateur-ish... but in GT2 (now GT1)... :bad:

Anyway, I still miss the GT1 class with the C6.R and the DBR9 and the MC12... GT racing won't be the same without them :(

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #76 on: 08-Apr-2009, 19:19:28 »
Little update:
-These 2 cars (Nissan and Ford) will be racing already in the 2009 FIA GT Championship, along with current GT1 and GT2 cars, but not for points
-Reiter have announced they will build a GT1 version of the new Lamborghini LP670 SV! So that's 3 manufacturers in the class, leaves room for 3 more.

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #77 on: 09-Apr-2009, 09:44:57 »

-Reiter have announced they will build a GT1 version of the new Lamborghini LP670 SV! So that's 3 manufacturers in the class, leaves room for 3 more.

Ferrari, Porsche and......... :wink:

Maserai will quit considering they don't have any car suitable for new GT1 class. Aston Martin? Too focussed on the LMP1 project at the moment...

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #78 on: 18-Apr-2009, 00:02:18 »
Jaguar returns to GT2!
I don't know how long it's been since Jaguars raced at Le Mans but my guess is the Group C era (late 80s early 90s)...

However, now they've developed a new car based on the XK / XKR. It'll race the 2nd half of this season in the ALMS and a full 2010 season, with an American team called RocketSports Racing (RSR). From 2010 on, the car will also be sold to customers. Plans are to race it at Le Mans in 2010 :D It has a 5-litre naturally aspirated engine based on the new XK engine, and its development was assisted by Jaguar :good:


http://www.rocketsportsracing.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=574&Itemid=120

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Re: Endurance racing news
« Reply #79 on: 04-May-2009, 12:47:40 »
Montezemolo's Revenge: Ferrari chief to start Le Mans

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/05/03/montezemolos-revenge-ferrari-chief-to-start-le-mans/



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Ferrari's participation in Formula One is so firmly entrenched in the identities of both the world championship and the Italian automaker that its abandonment of the series is almost unthinkable. But thinking about just that, according to some commentators, is what Ferrari chief Luca di Montezemolo wants people to start doing, as a spate of heated correspondence flies back and forth between Maranello and Paris, seat of motorsport's governing body, the FIA.

Montezemolo, who also serves as chairman of the Fiat group and head of the Formula One Teams Association, has been invited to ceremonially start this year's 24 hours of Le Mans by the ACO, where he will be joined by Scuderia Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicalli. And while to some it may seem entirely benign, others insist that it's a shot across the bow of the SS Max Mosley, the FIA chief who's been pushing new cost-cutting regulations to which Ferrari, among several other teams, is vehemently opposed. But could Ferrari really leave Formula One? This isn't the first time the idea's been floated, following a recent campaign to form a renegade spin-off series and Ferrari's Indy program in the 80's, to name just a couple of examples. The hard, cold truth that Mosley must be realizing is that Le Mans series endurance sports car racing has grown in profile to rival that of Formula One, and even if Ferrari's participation in the series is currently limited primarily to GT2, where it has taken numerous class victories, its heritage at the iconic French track is nearly as firmly entrenched as it is on the world's grand prix circuits.


I don't know what's the best setion for this bit of news, Formula 1 or Endurance Racing. Either way... I don't think Ferrari will ever leave Formula 1 - but just imagining a FXX-powered LMP1 prototype makes me drool :drool: Afterall, Ferrari and Le Mans are as linked as Ferrari and Formula 1 :wink:

 

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